Vicki Gunvalson Responds to Tamra Judge's Crying Video, Details What Sparked Fallout
Vicki Gunvalson Responds to Tamra Judge's Crying Video, Details What Sparked Fallout
Real Housewives of Orange County star Vicki Gunvalson is speaking out about her nasty feud with her former best friend Tamra Judge -- and she isn't holding back.
On the latest episode of the Hollywood Raw podcast with Dax Holt and Adam Glyn, the reality star detailed what led to the fallout of her longtime friendship with Tamra, where they stand now, and if she'd ever consider trying to mend their friendship in the future.
Vicki also reacted to Tamra's recent emotional social media posts, in which she shared videos to her Instagram Stories last week of herself crying over comments Vicki made about her estranged relationship with her daughter Sidney.
"I've tried so hard not to listen to what Vicki had said about me, and I just keep getting bombarded with it," Tamra said, getting emotional, per PEOPLE. "I'm in just disbelief, in such disbelief, this woman would go so low. Do you know what it's like to lose a child? Do you know what it's like? It's the most painful thing in the world [and] to insinuate it was because I was on [RHOC]. No, that's not what it is."
"You win, Vicki. I don't know what you want from me, but you got it. You win, OK? You kick me when I'm down. You hurt me all the time," she continued through tears. "I can't do it anymore."
"You can have my spot on the show. You can have whatever you want," she added. "Just please leave my family alone! Please!"
While on the Hollywood Raw podcast, Vicki called "bulls--t" on Tamra's emotional reaction, claiming she just "wants attention" and is a "good actress."
"Were there tears? There were no tears. She's a good actress," she said.
"What is the point of her doing that? Why doesn't she call me if that's how she really felt? She wants attention," she shared. "That's what she wants. She wants attention. If she really, really cared about me and our friendship, she'd call me off camera and say, 'Let's sit down, let's meet, let's call each other. Let's FaceTime each other. We don't need to show anything to the public.' So, I think it's all bulls--t. I think she was just looking for drama."
She added that Tamra and Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave are "weird together," calling her former costar "another mean girl." (Tamra and Teddi cohost the podcast Two Ts in a Pod.)
"I don't have people like that in my life. My people in my life would do anything for me and I will do anything for them," Vicki continued, noting that she sees her friendship with Tamra as a "work friendship" now.
"I don't look at her as somebody I'd call as a friend, because friends don't treat friends that way, whether it's treating me this way or treating [Shannon Beador] this way, you don't treat people like that," she said. "And Shannon was suffering enough. We didn't need to make her suffer anymore, but Tamra wanted to make her accountable, like who is Tamra to make Shannon accountable for a DUI? You know? She was already embarrassed, humiliated, and, you know, she's a mother of three, teaching her children don't drink and drive, and now all of a sudden Tamra's coming in with, you know, the bullhorn. She's going to make her accountable. Like, it's not her place."
When asked if she feels "bad" about calling out Tamra's strained relationship with her daughter, Vicki said, "No. She keeps talking about it all the time. Every season, 'My daughter doesn't talk to me.' Like, if you don't want anyone to know, then stop talking about it."
Read on for all of the takeaways from Vicki's appearance on the Hollywood Raw podcast.
While Tamra has previously shared her side of what led to her fallout with Vicki and Shannon Beador -- aka the Tres Amigas -- host Dax asked Vicki to recall her recollection of events, saying that he felt Tamra was unclear about the "exact moment of when thing went sour."
According to Vicki, the trio's friendship fell apart following Shannon's DUI arrest in September 2023 due to how Tamra allegedly treated Shannon in the wake of her arrest. (Tamra, for her part, has shut down claims that she was a "bad" friend to Shannon after her DUI.)
"We were doing a show, Tres Amigos, ... and we were doing a great show. It's like a song and dance," Vicki recalled. "And obviously, we know Shannon got a DUI, and Tamra was so brutally mean to Shannon. And Shannon did have a cocktail after the show. She wasn't driving. We had drivers, and you know, she started judging Shannon. And I'm Shannon's friend as well. And I just said, 'Can you just, like, lay back a little bit on her?' Just like, 'You're so hard on her.'"
"[We] filmed with her a couple of times, you know, calling Shannon, just terrible words and terrible things," she continued. "And it wasn't Tamra's business to make Shannon accountable, but Shannon has been in therapy. She's been in counseling. She went to, you know, everything she had to do for her police record to be allowing her to drive with a breathalyz
Real Housewives of Orange County star Vicki Gunvalson is speaking out about her nasty feud with her former best friend Tamra Judge -- and she isn't holding back.
On the latest episode of the Hollywood Raw podcast with Dax Holt and Adam Glyn, the reality star detailed what led to the fallout of her longtime friendship with Tamra, where they stand now, and if she'd ever consider trying to mend their friendship in the future.
Vicki also reacted to Tamra's recent emotional social media posts, in which she shared videos to her Instagram Stories last week of herself crying over comments Vicki made about her estranged relationship with her daughter Sidney.
"I've tried so hard not to listen to what Vicki had said about me, and I just keep getting bombarded with it," Tamra said, getting emotional, per PEOPLE. "I'm in just disbelief, in such disbelief, this woman would go so low. Do you know what it's like to lose a child? Do you know what it's like? It's the most painful thing in the world [and] to insinuate it was because I was on [RHOC]. No, that's not what it is."
"You win, Vicki. I don't know what you want from me, but you got it. You win, OK? You kick me when I'm down. You hurt me all the time," she continued through tears. "I can't do it anymore."
"You can have my spot on the show. You can have whatever you want," she added. "Just please leave my family alone! Please!"
While on the Hollywood Raw podcast, Vicki called "bulls--t" on Tamra's emotional reaction, claiming she just "wants attention" and is a "good actress."
"Were there tears? There were no tears. She's a good actress," she said.
"What is the point of her doing that? Why doesn't she call me if that's how she really felt? She wants attention," she shared. "That's what she wants. She wants attention. If she really, really cared about me and our friendship, she'd call me off camera and say, 'Let's sit down, let's meet, let's call each other. Let's FaceTime each other. We don't need to show anything to the public.' So, I think it's all bulls--t. I think she was just looking for drama."
She added that Tamra and Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave are "weird together," calling her former costar "another mean girl." (Tamra and Teddi cohost the podcast Two Ts in a Pod.)
"I don't have people like that in my life. My people in my life would do anything for me and I will do anything for them," Vicki continued, noting that she sees her friendship with Tamra as a "work friendship" now.
"I don't look at her as somebody I'd call as a friend, because friends don't treat friends that way, whether it's treating me this way or treating [Shannon Beador] this way, you don't treat people like that," she said. "And Shannon was suffering enough. We didn't need to make her suffer anymore, but Tamra wanted to make her accountable, like who is Tamra to make Shannon accountable for a DUI? You know? She was already embarrassed, humiliated, and, you know, she's a mother of three, teaching her children don't drink and drive, and now all of a sudden Tamra's coming in with, you know, the bullhorn. She's going to make her accountable. Like, it's not her place."
When asked if she feels "bad" about calling out Tamra's strained relationship with her daughter, Vicki said, "No. She keeps talking about it all the time. Every season, 'My daughter doesn't talk to me.' Like, if you don't want anyone to know, then stop talking about it."
Read on for all of the takeaways from Vicki's appearance on the Hollywood Raw podcast.
While Tamra has previously shared her side of what led to her fallout with Vicki and Shannon Beador -- aka the Tres Amigas -- host Dax asked Vicki to recall her recollection of events, saying that he felt Tamra was unclear about the "exact moment of when thing went sour."
According to Vicki, the trio's friendship fell apart following Shannon's DUI arrest in September 2023 due to how Tamra allegedly treated Shannon in the wake of her arrest. (Tamra, for her part, has shut down claims that she was a "bad" friend to Shannon after her DUI.)
"We were doing a show, Tres Amigos, ... and we were doing a great show. It's like a song and dance," Vicki recalled. "And obviously, we know Shannon got a DUI, and Tamra was so brutally mean to Shannon. And Shannon did have a cocktail after the show. She wasn't driving. We had drivers, and you know, she started judging Shannon. And I'm Shannon's friend as well. And I just said, 'Can you just, like, lay back a little bit on her?' Just like, 'You're so hard on her.'"
"[We] filmed with her a couple of times, you know, calling Shannon, just terrible words and terrible things," she continued. "And it wasn't Tamra's business to make Shannon accountable, but Shannon has been in therapy. She's been in counseling. She went to, you know, everything she had to do for her police record to be allowing her to drive with a breathalyz